Oren Cass

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818 appearances 4 recordings 3 series first heard Nov 2025 last heard 3 Jun

Oren Cass’s voice in public audio — every appearance, attributed to the second.

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But we should be able to agree that the scale that Wall Street has grown to and a lot of what it's doing just is not creating value in the world.
I think that's exactly right.
And so that's a great sort of way into this question of what do we do?
Because I think one place where I at least perceive still very large differences between how someone like I would think about addressing this versus folks on the left is I think the more left of center view tends to be
okay, we essentially need to find the things that we don't like and prescribe them and sort of construct a regulatory apparatus that is going to sort of keep these things in bounds, figure out which ones we do like versus which ones we don't like.
But then if you look at what Dodd-Frank actually is, right, it's thousands of pages generating thousands of pages of regulations that in a lot of cases end up doing things like saying, well, if banks can't lend, make certain risky loans, banks will instead lend to this new set of institutions that we will call private credit and they will make the risky loans.
And to your point, that will typically be more agile than the regulators will be.
Yes.
But it is important to take that as a baseline reality when you're deciding what we should do.
Right?
In other words, I do get very frustrated with my friends on the left when they're like, no, but this would have worked better if not for the lobbyists.
I'm like, well, did you have a plan for there not being the lobbyists?
I think the question of how you represent workers more effectively is a super important one.
And that sounds fantastic.
And then I would again say, and how's that working out for you, right?
Not fair.
That is not fair.
This is – we conservatives are pragmatists, if nothing else.
Right.
So what this leads me to is just to think is that what we really need is quite sort of blunt, broad-based constraints.
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