Oren Cass

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818 appearances 4 recordings 3 series first heard Nov 2025 last heard 3 Jun

Oren Cass’s voice in public audio — every appearance, attributed to the second.

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I call it tantronomics.
Tantronomics.
Tantronomics.
The – and it's important to say I think what's so fascinating about him as such a non-ideological person is that I think that actually had some real benefits in his willingness to reject everything that had been standard republican dogma.
His willingness – there was no one else willing – But you can't replace it with a sort of nihilistic and vindictive –
If all you do is demolition and then go find the next thing to demolish, you're less likely to be remembered as a great builder.
I think it is certainly fair to say that there has been a lot of demolition.
Yes.
I think the interesting thing when you mentioned take 10% of this company and so forth, what you see at the sort of fundamental level is in fact a shift toward we are going to do industrial policy.
Yes.
I think that's an incredibly important point that there are certain – Hooray.
When we think about the sort of interaction between politics and the economy, this is one of the things that was so lost.
Like it's funny.
There didn't used to be a field called economics.
It was called political economy.
People called Adam Smith a political economist and it was only really in the 20th century that you defined this separate field of economics, which was just with math and abstract models and so forth, we can kind of say what should be done.
When in reality, the political dimension is almost always inseparable, certainly at the level of what should we be doing.
Yes.
So I completely agree with that.
I think the – in debating circles, we refer to that as a Mott and Bailey, which is – are you familiar with the Mott and Bailey?
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