Oren Cass

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818 appearances 4 recordings 3 series first heard Nov 2025 last heard 3 Jun

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Breaking Points with Krystal and Saagar · 6/3/26: Larry Ellison Net Worth Skyrockets On Data Centers, ICE Protests Erupt At Delaney Hall · 3 Jun 2026 podcast

But the left is outside of Delaney Hall.

It doesn't seem to be going anywhere.

The Delaney protests remind me of a distinction that I think has been raised, whether it was in Minneapolis or elsewhere.

And I actually don't mean this in the context of Delaney, because I believe people in our detention should be treated humanely, of course.

But there has been a blurring of the distinction between resident and citizen.

that I find very interesting.

Sometimes it seems as though, yes, we should be affording certain rights to people who are in detention, people who are here on green cards, visas, and the like, especially if we said we were going to.

But also, there is a distinction between somebody who is living here in the United States legally, or in some cases illegally, and a citizen.

And I think the meaning of citizen is why—I mean, the degraded meaning of citizen is probably why that distinction has been blurred.

I don't know if you have any thoughts on that.

I just mean like non-citizens voting in D.C.

elections, something like that.

You also sound like the libertarians who are Orrin's critics.

There were caravans that were sending a lot of migrants.

Border crossings were going up.

Let's roll this clip of Scott Bassett, and I'll get your take on this, Oren, because you interviewed him last night.

But Scott Bassett gave what a lot of people are reacting to as a major economic speech at the Reagan Library last week.

And he was talking about economic security as national security and how we've kind of, the way he sees it, that we've sort of divorced these two things when they should always be thought of together.

And citizenship and labor are obviously a huge component of this.

So let's roll the clip.

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