Oren Cass

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818 appearances 4 recordings 3 series first heard Nov 2025 last heard 3 Jun

Oren Cass’s voice in public audio — every appearance, attributed to the second.

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But if you want to think more broadly about we want people investing in the US, bringing back the kinds of things that can be done here productively, you do need to address that problem you just described, which is –
labor and environmental regulatory issues, just baseline wages and so forth.
There are an awful lot of reasons not to build things in the US.
Other countries give so much more support to their producers in a lot of cases.
And so we do need something to offset that.
It's a tricky balancing act because the flip side is that we like the idea of states competing against each other in constructive ways, right?
There are all sorts of things we would say it's good that states can go their own way.
If states are actually competing on like –
who can have the most efficient process for permitting something new, that's good.
We should want that.
And so the sweet spot, it seems to me, is you need to have good national baselines, right?
You need to have the national labor law, the national employment standards, the national environmental standards paired with then allowing and encouraging states to compete with each other.
And so I don't think we have it exactly right, but I would say that –
It is actually one of the real benefits of the American system that we have some sort of flexibility and give and take in that.
That I think on balance probably benefits us.
I'm glad you brought it around to that because that's where I end my essay as well, is on the point that there are all sorts of policy discussions to be had.
But in the final analysis, this is also a cultural question, right?
There have always been ways to make money that are just not good things to do.
Sure.
That are embarrassing, frankly.
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