Owen Gregorian

But, you know, it's hard to know even if that is real.

Just like we're seeing with the Epstein files where there's a lot of stuff in there that's not really vetted.

It's not really verified.

It could just be somebody saying something.

And as Scott has often told us, a lot of this alien stuff might have been literally just planted in a bunch of files.

To deceive people and you know even Joe Rogan who's a big alien believer or at least he wants to believe has been very skeptical with all these files coming out and all these stories coming out saying you know how do we know if this is disinformation or if this is real that most of it's just based on secondhand knowledge or people saying that somebody told them something or somebody showed them something.

There's all these stories.

One of the recent ones was about some massive UFO that couldn't be moved, so they built a building around it, and people are trying to figure out where that might be.

But there's no proof, right?

There's no real proof of any of this at this point.

And even if a bunch of documents come out, kind of like a dump like the Epstein files...

It's not going to mean that it's all real.

It's not going to mean that it's true.

And so it'll be interesting to see how they manage this, because I think this would be a lot more sensitive even than the Epstein files, in my opinion, because you can't just dump a bunch of files and say, oh, look, there are a bunch of aliens.

So the statement from Trump, for reference, is based on the tremendous interest shown, I'll be directing the Secretary of War and other relevant departments and agencies to begin the process of identifying and releasing government files related to alien and extraterrestrial life, unidentified aerial phenomena, UAP, and unidentified flying objects, UFOs, and any and all other information connected to these highly complex but extremely interesting and important matters.

God bless America.

And Massey immediately came out and said, oh, this is all just a distraction from Epstein.

And so you've got all the counter reactions coming out now.

We have...

The view, interestingly, if you remember the story a couple days ago where the reporter asked Trump, or I'm sorry, there was a reporter that asked Catherine Levitt,