Owen Murphy

And Chucky seems to have a slightly different attitude.

What was he saying to France football?

Guardiola's hard on me.

I'm also hard on him.

It's important to me.

It's a human relationship.

Arguing with the person in front of you is the essence of life.

We forget about that.

So, I mean, I kind of reminded a little bit here of Zlatan Ibrahimovic back in the day.

You know, he was talking about, well, look, you know, when I grew up, it was like I grew up in a house where we'd say, pass me the fucking salt, you moron.

And that was kind of just the way we talked.

It was just normal.

It was just normal for us to sort of talk to each other like that.

But Guardiola couldn't handle that.

Didn't you stab your brother in the hand over a slice of butter?

It wasn't a slashing action, not a stab.

So we've got two examples there, Zlatan and Grealish, of guys who couldn't get over this tension, say, with Guardiola.

So how is Cherokee managing to do this?

Yeah.

You know, he did, Guardiola did actually say afterwards, he said, he eventually took him off because they weren't finding him somehow in the second half.