Owen Raskovich

And good to be back for our

What, second or third episode for 2020?

Second episode together for 2020.

And we have some absolute gold for listeners today because you're going to share some of your secrets.

Sorry, you've got your other podcast as well, right?

Like How To Money.

So you're interviewing people there.

Yeah, I mean, some people learn from their own mistakes, but it's probably easier to learn from the mistakes of others as well as the triumphs of others.

So I'm really keen to get stuck into these, learn some of the five things because distilling it down from so many things that you've learned to just five things is really valuable for listeners because it's like, this is what you can walk away from this episode with.

And yeah, I've got a few of them in front of me now.

So let's just get stuck into them.

Mm-hmm.

When you say, so no one's going to know how everything works and you have to self-initiate, what are some of the practical things that people can do to, I guess, just get the ball rolling on this?

I mean, this podcast is probably a really good thing, right?

Just listening to this every now and again.

How about, and that's a really good one, kind of just learning by fire, I guess.

Yeah.

How about books or anything like that?

Was there anything in particular for you that I guess gave you a better understanding of how the finance world works?

So I like that one.