Oz Pearlman

That's what opened doors for me.

that's the challenge in life, right?

Is to connect with other people because I realized other people are going to be the ones who open your door.

Your network and who you are is a huge factor of your success and happiness, right?

As you get older, you watch so much more and more.

I heard your Tristan Harris, we were talking about earlier, where he talks about how much lonelier people are now because you don't engage people in real life anymore.

It's all screens and texts and it's so true.

It's prevalent.

For me, it's probably the same as for you.

I don't know how it is for you, but I just, between family, between work,

there's just not as much time.

And especially if you're ambitious and driven, I have definitely traded career over friendships at various stages where I can't be at this big event.

I can't be at this boy's trip.

It's impossible.

I travel too much for work.

So when you have that drive, and not everyone has that same thing, but at a certain point, I think that connecting with people around you and either forming very strong relationships or bonds that go past...

Like give and take relationships are a huge one for me where I feel that as I get older, the people around me that are just taking, I don't like that relationship.

I try to find ones where you're able to keep giving, giving, giving until the point where you have to take and somebody wants to give at that.

Does that make sense?

I'm trying, I'm saying in a poor way, but the people that have stuck around the longest for me are ones.