Oz Veloshian

Which is right.

I mean, at that moment, I think he said the amount they're watching any of the cable channels on a nightly basis is 3 million, maybe 4 million.

the amount of watching that view, right?

Even one of the puppet views or one of the viral progress network views can get three, four million views.

It's more that the noise drowns out all of it.

And I think there's that interesting question, and I don't know how you feel about this now.

I mean, you're so immersed in the risks of the world, it can be difficult, I think, to keep that in perspective, and maybe that's entirely the right thing.

But there's also the question of, is the noise a form of its own control?

Because you could make the argument that

The best way to control an open society that prizes the theory or the abstract theory of its openness is to just flood the zone with noise.

Because then you can get away with things because there's so much noise, you just won't get noticed.

Rather than go through the really Herculean efforts of control, which you do see in other societies like the closed societies or like China, which has spent a good 15 years building.

I agree completely with this.

Completely.

But you could say the other side, which is the noise is our source of freedom.

The noise would be a source of freedom if it was actually random noise coming from all these citizens.

It's not.

The noise is actually meant to induce...

anger and concern and stress, and it's addictive.

It's not just random walk through the park, all these different people doing different things noise.