Pablo Fuentes

Got it.

Uh, no, they're, uh, employees 60% for, well, if you can include contractors, it's more like 15, but, um, yeah.

So we target an LTV to CAC ratio of three.

So if we hit the two kind of big numbers that we track, that we religiously track, is the LTV to CAC, right?

So we want to hit above three.

And for our organic channels, we're definitely doing that.

Yeah, that's exactly, I mean, that's how we calculate it.

We do include everything and we don't spend any money on SEM.

So our LTV to CAC is, you know, three and a half right now for what's in August.

So the, uh, actually cat can be, um, even lower than that sometimes, but yeah.

200 bucks.

So, but the, the, the other number we track is, uh, the, the way to pay back, no, like a number of months.

Yep.

How many months does it take for us to, to, you know, to make our money back?

Uh, yeah, it's between six and eight months, depending on the month.

Yeah, I mean, obviously, Proven.com and then my Twitter is Proven Pablo.

And yeah, I mean, I blend some stuff there that has to do with my world with playing music and with building guitars and also with everything to do with the business and a big...

You know, if anybody listening to the podcast is working with minorities or women anywhere in the country and wants to have, you know, people come in and speakers talk to talk to people about about entrepreneurship.

I'd love to do that.

I want to really get involved in that and give them back.