Pablo Torre

Jagermeister liqueur.

35% alcohol by volume.

Imported by Master Jagermeister US.

White Plains, New York.

Welcome to Pablo Torre Finds Out.

I am Pablo Torre, and today we're going to find out what this sound is.

You're talking about how every time I walk around our city, both of us are from Manhattan, born and raised, people yell at me, don't go after Jalen Bronson.

Leave the Knicks alone is the number one bit of feedback that I get while doing my power walks around the city, which is how I exercise as the Knicks are entering the playoffs.

It's very clear that people are afraid that a show like this that cares about investigating stuff might partner with someone like Noah Shackman to do an episode about the New York Knicks.

Yeah.

And so this is a collaboration that we've done with you and Wired Magazine.

It's a big new feature you have.

Double byline, you and Bobby Silverman.

And we got documents, Noah.

We sure do.

I want to introduce you to the proceedings here with a line from your article, if that's okay.

Yeah.

Because it does say that in your decades reporting on national security, and this is you as a journalist who's covered the Pentagon, covered intelligence services, you've gone to Iraq, to Afghanistan, how many times in all?

And yet...

Quote, you never encountered people taking such elaborate steps to avoid being outed as a source as you did reporting on this story from inside of Madison Square Garden.