Pablo Torre

And the headline of this article, Madison, is what?

I left there with no trophy.

NCAA female swimmer who tied for fifth with trans athletes says officials put Leah Thomas ahead of her.

Right.

And so now you see the trophy.

You see the focus on how the NCAA had an official that insisted that Leah Thomas get the fifth place trophy to hold on the podium, meaning that Riley Gaines had to hold the sixth place trophy, which is not as, I guess, fifth placey in terms of what it felt like in her hand.

She would get the fifth place trophy in the mail as a result.

And this story keeps on getting better

printed and reprinted, and it's the media coverage that defined the debate.

It is the story that doesn't die, Pablo.

You know, in that first Daily Wire article, she says, I am in full support of her, in full support of her transition and her swimming career and everything like that, because there's no doubt that she works hard too, that she's just abiding by the rules that the NCAA put in place.

I mean, what that is, is that's the Riley Gaines who gave her queer teammate a ride.

That's her.

That's the starting point for Riley Gaines here.

And after The Daily Wire, naturally, in the sequence here, comes an interview on Right Wing Talk Radio with Clay Travis.

Right.

So the meet this last week was an all-female meet.

And so there wasn't even a male locker room opportunity because there are no males on deck.

And so going into the meet, we were all curious what the situation would be.

And so we were just told that we could all use that locker room, which is not a norm, sharing locker rooms like that.