Pablo Torre

So, you know, I think it's just a matter of are you a serious person?

Are you a serious league?

Even though you're being questioned by a person who is wrapped in half-ply toilet paper.

Well, he's a 27.

He corrected me on this when I first interviewed him.

He's a 27 percent owner of the Mavs says he's a minority owner of the Mavs still.

But you're right.

The question was last week when Adam Silver goes in front of the Board of Governors in New York City at the St.

Regis Hotel on Wednesday with Tuesday committees happening before that, in which Steve Ballmer, by the way, is the chair of the audit committee.

The chair of the audit committee of NBA owners is the man under this investigation.

And so the question of like, how do the other owners feel?

I can tell you I've spoken to.

I can say I spoke to four.

Who think that it's absurd that this is something that the NBA plans

potentially on not punishing proportionate to the evidence.

And it's about the evidence.

It's not about me, it's about the evidence I have surfaced.

And Dan, by the way, Dan added to the reporting on this in the episode, in terms of an owner who said before that meeting and during that meeting, Steve Ballmer gave us the Saab story.

And I should be clear, the Saab story can coexist with the scam story.

I keep on saying this, two things can be true.