Pablo Torre

So what happens when you don't have the repercussions that you're outlining, even though Julie K. Brown has been doing incredible work like this, as well as other journalists who are on the story now as well?

What might you get at best?

And it's the idea that when you talk about this public figure, you got to mention this stuff now.

And is that enough?

Is that nourishing, you know, when we're starving for something like consequences?

You know, it's been really encouraging, maybe because the bar has been on the floor.

It's been so encouraging to see people demand both consequences as well as journalism.

I think that's something to unite all of this, something that I've been just feeling, you know, to your first initial question is that it is it has never been easier for a very wealthy and powerful person to hide the reality of what they're actually doing.

And I think about this, of course, in all the ways that are obvious in our politics, all the ways in which this administration has been using, I mean, from cryptocurrency to shell companies to all these other mechanisms that don't require disclosure.

The prediction market insider trading epidemic, all of that stuff.

It's really easy to get away with with opacity.

But over and over again, like the lesson I've learned by doing my little show has been, my God, we're underserving the public appetite that wants to see something like a reckoning.

And so, look, the no king stuff, which is orders of magnitude beyond, I think what I

What I expected at the outset, and I simply say that because numbness and something like resignation, you know, that tends to follow cynicism.

And I think if nothing else, the pendulum has been

pushed and abused to the point where they have gone too far.

The Epstein class, broadly speaking, has gone too far.

And you're looking at, frankly, the petards, the petards that this sort of ruling class has hoisted themselves upon.

They're some of the most on-the-nose classic examples of just like comic book corruption.

We're talking about pedophilia.