Pablo Torre

Absolutely.

Yeah, I believe the quote in your article in The Athletic was...

And something we really prize on this show is, to whatever extent possible, getting an unvarnished accounting of ego.

And so one of the people that you talk to is someone who I want to introduce to our audience in case you weren't familiar with his line of work.

It may do.

Maybe we can get on to that.

Rahm Emanuel, former U.S.

Congressman, White House Chief of Staff under Barack Obama, who is...

kind of unsubtly interested in potentially becoming the president of the United States in 2028.

Also, most crucially here, the mayor of Chicago from when to when?

Right.

And he has been, I would say, sports curious for a long time, although his background is in ballet, which just gives an excuse to show this photo.

But this is also the guy who got the NFL draft to leave New York, got the NHL draft to Chicago, got the NBA All-Star game.

He very strategically wanted these big sporting events for his city.

I remember they said, well, this will be a great marketing for the city.

I said, I don't need you for marketing.

I just had the NFL draft.

I said, I don't need you.

I said, you think Chicago needs you for marketing?

I said, not happening.