Pagan Kennedy

Oh, thank you so much for having me on.

Oh, thank you so much for having me on.

Oh, thank you so much for having me on.

Well, that actually did begin with the backlogs because in 2018, when I fell down this rabbit hole, the rape kit backlog was very much in the news. There were, of course, almost half a million kits that hadn't been processed, and this had become a major scandal. And I suddenly, you know, I'd been hearing about the kit my whole adult life, I think.

Well, that actually did begin with the backlogs because in 2018, when I fell down this rabbit hole, the rape kit backlog was very much in the news. There were, of course, almost half a million kits that hadn't been processed, and this had become a major scandal. And I suddenly, you know, I'd been hearing about the kit my whole adult life, I think.

Well, that actually did begin with the backlogs because in 2018, when I fell down this rabbit hole, the rape kit backlog was very much in the news. There were, of course, almost half a million kits that hadn't been processed, and this had become a major scandal. And I suddenly, you know, I'd been hearing about the kit my whole adult life, I think.

And just like everybody else, I was very aware of it. And I think like everybody else or lots of other people, I couldn't really, I didn't know much about it. And the more I thought about it, the more kind of amazing it seemed to me because there are just so many things in this world that that seemed to be designed to allow sexual assault to happen.

And just like everybody else, I was very aware of it. And I think like everybody else or lots of other people, I couldn't really, I didn't know much about it. And the more I thought about it, the more kind of amazing it seemed to me because there are just so many things in this world that that seemed to be designed to allow sexual assault to happen.

And just like everybody else, I was very aware of it. And I think like everybody else or lots of other people, I couldn't really, I didn't know much about it. And the more I thought about it, the more kind of amazing it seemed to me because there are just so many things in this world that that seemed to be designed to allow sexual assault to happen.

You know, more and more parts of the internet, unfortunately, but just so many things, or date rape drugs, or some of the way cars work and things like that. But I couldn't really think of a lot of things that had been designed or created to back up the story of a survivor and to actually prove that an assault had happened. And so I really wondered, how did this come to be?

You know, more and more parts of the internet, unfortunately, but just so many things, or date rape drugs, or some of the way cars work and things like that. But I couldn't really think of a lot of things that had been designed or created to back up the story of a survivor and to actually prove that an assault had happened. And so I really wondered, how did this come to be?

You know, more and more parts of the internet, unfortunately, but just so many things, or date rape drugs, or some of the way cars work and things like that. But I couldn't really think of a lot of things that had been designed or created to back up the story of a survivor and to actually prove that an assault had happened. And so I really wondered, how did this come to be?

And that sent me to Wikipedia, where at that time it said that Louis Vitullo was the inventor of this kit. But he had died. He was already dead and had been dead for a while. And as I kind of searched around a little more, I kept seeing the name Marty Goddard as somebody who had been involved or helped him or something.

And that sent me to Wikipedia, where at that time it said that Louis Vitullo was the inventor of this kit. But he had died. He was already dead and had been dead for a while. And as I kind of searched around a little more, I kept seeing the name Marty Goddard as somebody who had been involved or helped him or something.

And that sent me to Wikipedia, where at that time it said that Louis Vitullo was the inventor of this kit. But he had died. He was already dead and had been dead for a while. And as I kind of searched around a little more, I kept seeing the name Marty Goddard as somebody who had been involved or helped him or something.

And so I originally became really interested in her because I just thought, well, it looks like she's still alive. I can't find an obituary. So I really need to speak to her because I want to hear if she's the one living person who can tell me that story. I want to hear it.

And so I originally became really interested in her because I just thought, well, it looks like she's still alive. I can't find an obituary. So I really need to speak to her because I want to hear if she's the one living person who can tell me that story. I want to hear it.

And so I originally became really interested in her because I just thought, well, it looks like she's still alive. I can't find an obituary. So I really need to speak to her because I want to hear if she's the one living person who can tell me that story. I want to hear it.

Yes. So I originally found out about this because in my search for her, I turned up two very long oral history interviews where she was telling her story. And she always began her – she began her story – in a hotline for what they called runaway teenagers back in the 1970s. And she was volunteering at this place called Metro Help in Chicago, answering the phones.

Yes. So I originally found out about this because in my search for her, I turned up two very long oral history interviews where she was telling her story. And she always began her – she began her story – in a hotline for what they called runaway teenagers back in the 1970s. And she was volunteering at this place called Metro Help in Chicago, answering the phones.