Pam Stepnick
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Podcast Appearances
What's he going to say?
Pam left me.
Okay.
No.
I understand where he gets it from.
Maybe I'm getting, they're rubbing off on me rather than the other.
No, but Jake and Logan have come back around and it's, they absolutely know and see and they have come to me directly and told me in the last, within the last five years, both of them separately, more than once,
We get it.
We don't know how you were ever married.
I have all their team friends say that to me all the time.
Like, you guys are so different.
How were you ever married?
And Jake came out.
I hope you're not mad at me.
I said this, Jake.
And had a very, very, very special conversation with David this last year that made us all break down in tears.
He told him he loved him.
Said some other things that I won't say.
But it was very, very sweet.
And it took, so you say, you know, was it detrimental to my kids?