Pam Stepnick

Right?

How you think back, what could I have done better?

what should I have done better parenting doesn't come with a handbook every parent learns that but it's true but I think the the the suicide forest was hard to write about because I didn't know how much it would dig up with Logan and make him feel um

I don't know, reliving it, I guess.

So that was a little bit hard.

Jake's things, not as hard to write about, but it just reminded me how much we've been through with Jake and people coming after him when it's not even warranted.

He got a lot more of that than Logan did.

Yeah.

A lot more.

A lot more.

Yeah, that I'm very thankful that I actually put on my own oxygen mask first.

And so I could survive and get out of a situation.

I don't even think I knew at the time how much that was going to go forward into the future to help other people.

Women, men.

I've had people reach out to me after the HBO series and episode six.

I thought I was going to be highly judged in a negative way for that whole.

Yes.

So go watch.

No.

No, just read the book.