Pamela Adlon

They were in the show.

Yes.

The episode.

I was directing the show.

Yeah.

And Ron was an actor in the show.

And I gave him an adjustment.

And he goes-

Who the fuck, you're gonna give me, you're telling me how to do my character?

It was fucking great.

It was absolutely incredible.

And then Lena calls him out.

But before we went and did, like, we started our day, we had a big talk.

Yeah.

And, you know, she was the showrunner in my show.

Okay.

She was the writer and the showrunner.

And we talked about, like, would she hire a white woman to...

director we had a whole we we talked for an hour yeah yeah yeah and i don't have that much time to shoot in a day yeah yeah but yeah it was important you know and i've known lena for years and i i mean i could cry right now i love her so much so um but it's it's very profound yeah what you said and you know things that she shared with me and

You know, it was, I actually wrote, the dialogue that Lena had that day was something that Tracy Ullman said to me when I did her show when I was a new mom for the first time.