Pamela Garfield-Jaeger

Okay, I'll go next.

My name is Pam Garfield Yeager, and I think I'm in the worst crowd.

I'm a licensed clinical social worker.

Excuse me.

I can't even say it, right?

Maybe that's a sign.

Well, OK, the truth is I'm no longer working in a, you know, in a setting and seeing people day to day to see what people are saying.

So a lot of what I see is what's online.

So I'll be a little bit honest and I'm not sure what people are saying in real life day to day.

What I see online is getting more and more radical in terms of just comments and everyday people and also the institutions and what they post.

To me, that's where I look at and I say, if they're promoting those things, then clearly our field is still in the direction of leaning very, very left and not even considering other points of view.

So I'm from California and I actually testified against this bill.

It's one of my viral moments.

There was a bill called AB665 where it has passed.

And not only in California are kids 12 and up able to seek their own therapy without any parental consent or involvement.

Now they can actually go to residential treatment.

without parental consent and involvement.

That passed and it went through in 2023.

I think it passed in 2024.

How does that work with payment?