Pamela Garfield-Jaeger

I'm not sure, honestly.

I think a lot of it's sort of public dollars, Medi-Cal, you know, tax-funded stuff.

I think a lot of it is trying to target kids who don't have insurance and just they want to kind of snatch up these kids.

Mm-hmm.

I'm not sure how it's panning out there because I've moved since then and I haven't heard specifically, but that is one of the worst bills out there.

I was a school counselor and we were allowed to see kids without parental consent.

However, at this time when I was a school counselor, which was in 2014 through 2016 time,

we worked really hard to get parental consent.

And when the parents said no, we almost always never work with them.

And if we did, we did very short term.

So maybe three or four sessions and then said, you know, off you go.

We need your parents to be involved.

But now it's a completely different situation.

Well, why are they going to a therapist?

I was going to say, why are they going to a therapist if they want everything that they think and do to be affirmed?

They can go to their dog and get affirmed.

And gosh, darn it.

People like me.

Yeah.

I mean, I look at the harm reduction policies, you know, and people will say that's compassion.