Pamela Garfield-Jaeger

And I don't know if that makes me more conservative, but it certainly made me angry.

And I stood up and I was not popular for that, but I was also kind of new and only part-time, so I didn't have much of a say.

It was just the fact that all of my liberal colleagues were just so...

They were so just going along with it.

And yeah, and brainwashed because they were scared.

They also really believe that the masks were necessary, even when they were, they thought they were so necessary and so helpful, but it was okay if they were sipping coffee to take their masks off.

That was just fine.

These people are zombies.

They lost their brains.

Yeah.

The what?

So I have a little story.

I went to a therapy conference in California, in San Jose, California.

And it was...

camped California association of marriage and family therapists, 2023.

So the mass mandates were done.

We all knew that they didn't work.

People weren't wearing them as regularly, but they still had the mass sitting out on their thing.

And, and they, I asked them if they use masks in their sessions or in their groups, it was like a group counseling program.

I was just asking them at their booth and they said, well, we don't mandate it, but if they want it, we want them to feel comfortable.