Pamela Garfield-Jaeger

So we offer them the mask.

And I said to them, I said to the therapist, well, but do you believe that they work?

Do you have the data that they work?

And she said, I know they don't work, but I want them to feel comfortable.

Oh, my gosh.

And I was like, well, you ever think that perhaps your patients need to know the truth?

And that you're not helping them by reinforcing anxiety, reinforcing a lie, and reinforcing a behavior such as covering their face, which blocks them from society, blocks them from engaging with people, dehumanizes them, all of the negative things we know about masks, let alone all the physical health problems.

And she was like, oh, I hadn't thought about that.

She agreed with me.

How do you not think about that?

All she can think is I want to make them feel safe.

That's what therapists think.

Feel safe, feel safe.

The World Health Organization?

Yes.

United Nations?

Yeah, she's got issues.

Oh, that's interesting.

Yeah, I agree.

One of the things specifically that Abigail Schreier was talking about is children and youth and how they're sent to therapists way too quickly.