Pamela Garfield-Jaeger

And even when they're not even showing problems, they're given social emotional learning and learning therapeutic ideas, which are actually creating harm.

It makes them think they are a problem.

Yeah.

They're making them ruminate, think about feelings they don't need to think about, making them little neurotic nutcases.

Because then the parents don't have to look at themselves.

But then, yeah, then there's the flip side, as Ryan was saying, is there's people who really could benefit from therapy.

And one population that comes to mind, Ryan, you know more about now, is substance abuse people who are drug addicts.

I mean, you can't always just do it on your own.

You can't always pull yourself up by your bootstraps.

It depends.

Agreed.

on what the situation is.

So we've got people who are making mountains out of molehills, but then we've got people who are really self-destructive and are on a scary path and they cannot pull themselves out.

And that's when they really might benefit from professional help.

Especially men.

Right.

I would not want to see a liberal female therapist.

If you're not mentally stable and you're worried you're going to end up reaching across and punching your therapist, it's probably not going to go well.

With toxic feminism.

To not go to that 24-year-old, that'd be a smart decision.