Pamela Garfield-Jaeger

So we could talk about the...

the little details of what's on the news and what people think, but it's really more about the relationship between you two and between your patients and yourself.

It's so nefarious because these people, I'm saying these people, the internet, the activists, the politicians, the Planned Parenthood, all of these institutions, the Trevor Project, they induce this, but they know who they're talking to.

They know they're talking to people who already have some kind of instability, who are prone to being anxious, who are prone to believing these things, and they know exactly what they're doing to continue this cycle of fear and panic and tension.

Ryan, where'd you go?

Ryan, where'd you go?

All right, let's keep talking.

I'm sorry to interrupt you.

It sounds like she wasn't ready.

She wasn't ready.

Regardless, I don't think it had to do with you not being the right therapist.

I don't know if it's because I'm conservative, but I've become a little, I guess, questioning of systems and big pharma and all of the traditional things that we've been taught.

So I'm just skeptical.

Maybe that's part of being conservative or just being skeptical.

But I'm more holistic, I believe, than most of the liberal colleagues are.

I'm going to question.

I'm going to wonder.

It's out of my scope medically, but I'm going to wonder if they're on psychotropic drugs, if those are helping or hurting.

I'm going to wonder if they've had a bunch of vaccines, if that has something to do with the symptoms that they're going through.

I'm going to just look at all as much as I can.