Pascal Auclair

And that's what we call practice.

That's the aspect of mindfulness I hear you bring forward here.

It's very, very immediate.

And what I like about it also is, and it's so rich, things become palpable.

It makes whatever is pleasurable even more pleasurable because we dive under concepts.

It's not the idea that I like that.

I like that kind of music.

I like that kind of situation.

It invites me to dive in.

It's really like the rock going down at the bottom of the ocean, you know, instead of the cork that stays at the, you know, floating on top of the water.

Like, oh, I love this.

No, it's much more like it requires a lot of attention.

It requires a diving underneath the...

ideas you know to really experience and there's a freedom in that because there's a there's a freshness in this i'm freed from my thoughts i'm freed from my tendency to to grasp and cling i get to actually fully experience this and in mindfulness i think in the it's most uh

Pure version, and it can be just a second, I don't mind, you know.

But when it's real mindfulness, the timeline drops.

I'm sorry, but there's no timeline.

In mindfulness, when I'm really there with something, it's just now.

It's just now.

It's not conceived in the way of a timeline.