Pascal Auclair

It's just, this is the experience, I'm fully there for it.

And the next moment, then we don't know what's going to happen.

There might not be mindfulness.

There might be habits of mind of clinging, of course.

Yeah.

And noticing the kind of ouch that we're caught again in like clinging, anxiety, fear of losing, which is absolutely natural.

So, so natural.

I'm talking to the listener here.

I don't want anybody to blame themselves for clinging for.

for getting tight around pleasure or displeasure, by the way.

It's so natural, very, very natural.

Yet, and that's the whole path of the Buddha as I understand it.

It's somebody who's saying, thinking, there must be another way.

There must be another way to relate to this that my mind won't get upset or fixated, you know?

Plus, I would say also, Dan, that there's a kind of particular joy that I think of as vipassana joy or insight joy or meditation joy is that when we, like now, we're going to talk about, you know, for like an hour or so about clinging, the mind that, you know, gets hooked up on, you know, take up something and obsess about it.

And we hear about it for all this time.

And then we go back to life and there's a particular kind of joy that comes up

That is the joy of seeing when we get caught, you know, when the mind clings.

We're going to talk about these four kinds of clinging.

And then tomorrow you'll see one of them and you'll go like, oh, I got one.