Pascal Auclair

Everything, we take everything to be mine.

And it doesn't take so much time, a few months of practice.

And people report this all the time.

They probably don't even notice so much, you know, but I noticed because the way they reported it, they'll say like,

You know, oh, I don't make a story so much out of it that the fact that my mind doesn't stay on the object, like the breath, for example.

I used to make it a really personal thing, you know, but now I don't.

It's natural that it does that, Pascal.

You know, I won't be able to stay on the breath for an hour and a half.

You know, it's not possible.

You know, so do you see it's a little bit less personal?

It doesn't refer back.

It becomes a wider view.

It's another vista.

I love this.

So it's not like, oh, my mind, my thoughts.

It's like, oh, there's a lot of thoughts in here.

There's a lot of emotional life happening in this system, you know?

And, you know, and yeah, at the beginning, I think my breath.

And then later I think, oh, the breath is a little...

you know, congested or contracted, you know, or the breath is, the breathing is happening easily today, you know, it's not so much referring to me.