Pastor Joel Webben
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first heard Apr 2026
last heard 9 Apr
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And so when you look at Martin Luther, you look at John Calvin, you look at Zwingli, you look at all these, Jonathan Edwards, you know, any of the Protestant reformers who outlined the Protestant position, none of them were dispensationalists.
And to break those terms down just briefly,
A dispensational Zionism is the idea that all of these Old Testament promises that we find in the Bible for Israel that are physical promises, promises about the land being recaptured or a temple being rebuilt and these kinds of things that that.
that these promises are meant to be understood.
They've either already in a preterist, meaning past, the Latin for past, they've been past fulfilled, or if there are any future instances of these promises that are still yet to be fulfilled, they have a spiritual fulfillment, not a physical fulfillment.
So all of the Catholics and all of the Protestants until, again, very recently, the last 100, 150 years, understood that whether or not Israel was a nation state in the year of our Lord 2026 or not, had no bearing on whether or not biblical prophecy will be fulfilled and the return of Christ.
But somewhere along the line, there became this very wooden hermeneutic, this very literal hermeneutic.
physical interpretation of Old Testament prophecies that essentially got evangelicals, which is a subset of Protestants, but a large subset, to believe that Christ can't actually come in his final physical return, that that can't take place.
What every Christian desires and wants to see, that that won't actually happen until Christ
The nation of state of Israel has been reestablished and Israel widens in its territory, achieves hegemony and all the boundaries.
Mike Huckabee is saying this.
Ted Cruz is saying this.
The old boundaries all the way from the river to the sea has to belong to Israel.
The temple mount and a new temple actually fashioned and then we'll get the return of Christ.
That's not how the Protestants historically saw it.
That's certainly not how Catholics have seen it.
That is a modern innovation concept.
but many evangelicals have fallen for it.
Yes, supersessionists, yeah.
Right.
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