Pat Lardner

And that's very important to you politically for our place in a world that is changing very, very quickly.

Well, I mean, in the case of our industry, because a lot of the firms that provide the expertise to undertake this activity are U.S.

firms, it means that this is part of actually a surplus that the United States has with Ireland.

So that's a positive part of that trade discussion.

Because a large part of the investable universe, be it of companies, et cetera, based in the States, significant amounts of the monies that are invested through Irish funds by people from all over the world find their way back into the U.S.

So as a part of the strategic conversation globally, this is a very, very pivotal industry.

So we believe that the underlying demand for what we do will grow.

Our ability to grow is very simply a factor of whether we have the product offerings, not only in publicly quoted investments, but in private market investments, whether the new technologies that will underpin how people invest tomorrow, like tokenization, that we are able to do them, to do them effectively, to do them in an agile way.

And that's very much our focus.

Next year is on the competitiveness in its fullest sense of Ireland's offering.

So that's why when we focus on things like how we use the great human skill and individual skill that exists around the country and match that with technology, which is why you're seeing many of the firms that we represent, our 150 firms from around the country, they're investing very heavily in matching the best of their human skill and expertise with the best of technology to make sure that we can be scalable, efficient, timely, trusted, all of the things that you would want and expect.