Pat Showalter

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26,606 appearances 60 recordings 2 series first heard Sep 2023 last heard 5d ago

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I mean, it's not just us, it's many organizations.
So I hope that as we move forward with this,
We will take this lesson to heart, but we won't necessarily take it to heart by ourselves.
We will think about what are ways that we can protect, continue to protect, but protect our residents as the Mountain View Police and also working with other police in ways that safeguard everybody's liberty.
The other thing I wanna talk about here is the idea of value and cost.
You know, when we first talked about this in 2024, that's when the proposal to install these came forward.
The world, our nation in particular, was in a very different place.
And so we heard on the city council, we heard about all of the safeguards that the police were putting in place.
And we thought they were a good idea.
But I think that in retrospect, we can say we were naive.
And we should have been more skeptical.
And certainly the place we find ourselves in as a nation, I mean, it's just completely different now.
And it means that this sort of thing has to be looked at with a completely different lens than it did before.
Maybe it should have been looked at that lens before, but it's just really crystal clear now that it needs to be looked that way before.
But I just want to say that I really appreciated when you first laid this out to us, you talked about what would be the value for
for law enforcement, and you had lots of examples, and many of them have come through.
And you talked about the cost, and the cost was in terms of money, because that's kind of where we were at that point.
We weren't so concerned about civil liberties.
But times have changed, and now,
the cost for money is really inconsequential.
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