Pat Sunderland
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407 appearances
3 recordings
1 series
first heard May 2026
last heard 24 Aug
Pat Sunderland’s voice in public audio — every appearance, attributed to the second.
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It is unexpected.
It was a complete surprise.
And to explain what she was charged with, I have to go into a brief tangent about pogos.
And I ain't talking about the sticks, brother.
No, a pogo is the term for a Philippines offshore gaming operator.
These were these entities throughout the Philippines that got really big during COVID that were essentially gambling hubs for offshore gambling only.
They were not allowed to service local Filipino people.
They were exclusively for running online casinos and stuff like that for overseas people.
Now, in the laws of
Of the Philippines, these were not allowed to cater to people in countries where gambling was illegal.
That was not allowed.
But in practice, these were Chinese casinos.
These were exclusively for Chinese people.
It's not.
For Chinese
to gamble online.
But in the same way that it did not bear up to the scrutiny of me just explaining it in a sentence, these pogos were quite infamous for skirting the law.
And as we kind of saw in the episode on Myanmar and Cambodia, these places that were originally started as gambling hubs very quickly dipped their toes into cryptocurrency and scams.
Then yeah, further into more and more scams.
Now this dispute.
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