Patrick Bury
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first heard Apr 2026
last heard 6 Sep
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Good morning,
Yeah, well I mean ultimately it's a political choice about what you want to do and where you assess the threats is like Kevin says, um, and where you see Ireland's place in the world.
Um, whether you're in favour of neutrality or not.
Like personally, obviously I am, but I think one with neutrality you choose that comes rights and responsibilities, and one of them is, um, as um you know, basically every security analyst says, you must be able to um protect your territorial integrity.
Um and not become a vector for other threats.
So I think Ireland has made some good progress in terms of where it was a low baseline with the independent commission.
But if you remember back when that concluded, the government chose to go for a level of ambition too.
And it looks like some sort of uplift to that is probably needed given the way the security situation is deteriorating even further.
Um
I mean level of ambition three was, you know, had jets uh a jet squadron and and and another few different capabilities added in terms of naval, etcetera.
Whether you need to go that far, I don't know, 'cause the the the the sort of asymmetry of drones, as Kevin's been saying, but um I think we probably need to the the the defence spend is really small, um, as a percentage of G D P even as it is uh percentage of GNI if you cut that back, uh one of the lowest in Europe and
Though we're coming as I said from a low base, if I think they've added an extra billion and a half, it seems like it's not even delivering fully on level of ambition two.
I think people would really like the main threats would want to deter Irish diplomatic efforts for say for support for Ukraine, potentially support support for Palestine, etcetera.
Um and so that there are costs imposed when the government makes decisions.
Uh and then they would uh manifest themselves as sort of sub threshold, so before under the the threshold of major conventional um direction.
Direct armed aggression, but uh drone attacks.
I mean the the the the the key threat would be or the the target would be I would have thought was American multinational headquarters in in I in Ireland.
You'd want them out, you'd crash the pharma sector um if you could to get them to withdraw.
Um and that obviously would have huge economic impact on just the daily Irish economy and people.
So that would be the
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