Patrick Freyne

Yeah.

And it just is.

Yeah.

Okay.

Your final song touches on one of the themes in Experts in the Dying Field is grief.

Tell me about your friend, Paul Clancy.

So running through, I think I think actually the core thing in the in the book is being at a certain age and looking at your life and there are people missing, you know, there's all these people you expected to be there who are gone and.

So Paul died at 35 very suddenly.

He'd been one of my closest friends.

He'd been in the band with me.

It kind of put a full stop to like that.

Most people always have the notion that maybe I'll get the band back together or, you know, that put a full stop on that story and that put a full stop on life.

You know, grief is such a strange thing to process.

And part of what the book is about is people trying to process grief.

I lost another close friend, Barry Jordan, when I was 21.

And there is...

there is this kind of these silhouettes in the world, you know, that are these people who are missing and who should be there.

And they're like, your heart feels like they should be there and that you can't quite believe that they're gone.

And I think... Still, yeah.

Yeah.