Patrick O'Shaughnessy

Do you think we take enough risk in general as people?

I'd love to sort of redo an exercise that you've done on me before because I think it's translatable for everyone listening.

You asked me some question which was something that rhymed with, what is the version of your story that is so big that it terrifies you?

Can you unpack that very powerful question?

What about inner conflict, like a character who wants two opposing things?

Why do you think that is?

Should we all be leaders in some way?

Back to this exercise of a version of a story that's so big it terrifies you.

Sounds like the model is raw potential is so big, but the mind can't figure it out.

And so the process is figuring out how to get something that's like subconscious out, like let it free.

How does one do that?

If I go back to the beginning and take everything we've talked about and ask you to give a sort of grand unified theory of everything that you've been searching for, what's your best attempt at that?

Why is the answer both yes?

You mentioned a guy named Don Rosenthal to me one time.

What did he teach you and how did he teach it to you?

How did he teach it to you?

I'm going to ask my traditional closing question.

What is the kindest thing that anyone's ever done for you?

Simple as that.

Wolfgang, I've counted on you for so many episodes of trying to figure things out.