Patrick O'Shaughnessy

What is the highest form of self-expression?

And I wondered if it was like Jesus and Buddha, the peoples whose ideas or work has reverberated most through history.

And you said you had never seen anyone that actually got to this definition.

Do you think maybe the only ones that have are like the world's religious historical figures or something?

We think about often the goal here of becoming for yourself as being so obviously true, but the reality that like you said, almost nobody does it by definition means that the impediments are enormous.

The counter forces are enormous.

So what in your experience are those things that most commonly stop people from getting down this path?

Do you think that surrender, it's a powerful word, do you think that surrender is a big part of this, that the key step is accepting the things that you want may not be the things that other people want and that's hard?

Is that another cut at this, your advice to sort of, rather than like follow your bliss, quote unquote, just master anything?

Like when you're young, just like master something?

Is that the actionable way of doing what you just said?

If you had to describe the energy signature of those things when you spot them or feel them, how would you encapsulate that in words?

I love those ideas.

They're beautiful.

The other cut at this that I love, maybe my second favorite thing in the book after that opening quote that we explored, is this notion that the reward for good work is more work.

When I read that, people are annoyed at me now for not shutting up about this idea.

How did that manifest for you?

Where did you come upon that idea?

What does it mean to you?

How did it play out in your own life?