Patrick Shaw

And there's all kind of rating in there, um, ratings in there.

Um, of course we have, you know, rapid vision when you don't have offices to pay for and all that, there's a lot you can do around those retreats.

And most of like, you know, COVID messed a lot of that up, but otherwise we'd be in the Philippines once or twice a year in India and doing really fun stuff where 60% of it is culture building, you know, um,

invest in hiring better I learned something incredible from Andre and I do these group meetings now and there's a link in there that shows one of the recordings but Andre who's just on the other stage it was it was awesome and then there's a there's a doc in there about you know how we go about this interviewing process and I do do the last interview of every single employee and I can't imagine not doing that at least for a while

Raising Capital, I'll just tell you, I have one minute.

So Raising Capital is, I went back to the group and I basically told my friend Tom, I'm like, look,

your valuation's about $6 million.

And I said it very politely and thoughtfully and all that, but y'all haven't done squat for this group.

Y'all haven't done squat, $6 million.

If you invest a million dollars, I'm not going to give you any equity.

Then here's how we're going to grow the company.

He's like, Patrick, that's not how private equity works.

And I was like, yeah, nobody offers you 10% for nothing either.

Like nobody does that in private equity either.

Right.

And I made a really compelling argument, put a whole slide deck together, and they literally gave us a million dollars.

It's sitting in the bank and we're using it to obviously to grow the company, which is cool.

And I think it has a lot to do with the culture.

So I put the actual addendum in there and all that kind of stuff.

which is a pretty unique thing you probably won't hear.