Patrick Sullivan

And we feel like, oh my gosh, like...

this guy like put together the pieces of the puzzle for how we got here over the last 40 years in such a clean and coherent way.

And it's so persuasive.

It's just like, well, of course, this is how we got here.

And we really felt, I think, inspired to try to help Callie and his sister, Dr. Casey Means.

They wrote a book together called Good Energy about the same subject.

We felt like,

You know, is there a way that we could help amplify this message and really inspire Americans?

Mold.

There's not enough farms.

Growing coffee organically.

So most coffee is grown around the equator.

They say that coffee stemmed came out of Ethiopia.

A lot of it is grown in Brazil.

The coffee that we get is specialty coffee, meaning it grades at an 85 or higher on the scale.

it's grown in a small family farm in honduras which is grown at high elevation the problem with most coffee is that when it's washed so it's this green bean it's picked and it's washed it's stored in humid conditions around the equator and those those humid conditions can often create uh essentially a great environment for mold to grow in

so roasting can often kill off most of the mold but it doesn't kill off the mycotoxin and the mycotoxin is really the problem

I actively try to talk people out of choosing oat milk.

If I'm working the register, I'm like, hey, organic whole milk is our standard.

Would you like that?