Patrick Sullivan

And, you know, quite frankly, I kind of buried that.

It was so stressful for Ashley and I. I was, what, late 30s and like, oh, my gosh, am I going to die?

Am I going to leave her a widow?

And so we decided, OK, we're going to get the thyroidectomy, the surgery to cut it out.

And like I said, I kind of buried that until when we started to work on the documentary, the director was interviewing us and he asked, like, why are you guys driven to this?

Why do you want to make this documentary?

And the first thing that I brought up was sort of this like, well, you know, we're in the health and wellness industry and we

Absolutely believe that nutrition plays a factor in how your life goes and how you feel.

But he goes, yeah, I'm not really buying that.

Like, why do you, Patrick, want to make this?

And it was almost like I remembered.

Oh, yeah.

I'm a cancer survivor.

I kind of buried that and quite frankly, kind of buried it out of shame because I shouldn't have gotten cancer.

You know, I was eating mostly healthy.

So we thought, right.

I was taking care of myself.

So we thought, and I still got cancer.

No, it was close to at the same time.

We were inspired after seeing Callie Means talk in summer, April or May of 2024.