Patrick Sullivan

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435 appearances 2 recordings 2 series first heard Feb 2026 last heard 8 Jul

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So like any business, the food companies were looking at how do we make our products last longer?
How do we make them less expensive and still deliver the consumer promise
that people expect when they open a bag of chips or pop open a soda.
Let's put a toy inside of the cereal.
Let's give a free gift with a happy meal.
Well, I think it's one of the best visual tactics that HHS has employed recently, this campaign to eat real food by flipping the food pyramid that came about in the 80s, 90s, which had at the very top of it,
animal protein and saturated fat and olive oil and butter and dairy and at the bottom, grains and rice and pastas and was built, we now know, thanks to lobbying efforts on the behalf of grain producers and not really based on full scientific basis of what we as humans have been eating for centuries.
So flipping the food pyramid upside down, putting the emphasis on animal fats, on dairy, on vegetables, and really de-emphasizing grains in particular, I think seems to make a lot of sense given what we know about metabolic health.
Yes.
But the safflower, sunflower, canola, all of those oils that have been very heavily processed, those are the oxidized.
Yes.
Yes.
And then they deodorize them.
It's a very industrial process to create seed oil.
It was originally machine lubricant.
It was oil that went into machines in the World War Two during World War Two because it was a cheap way to produce a lubricant.
I mean, it's hard to like guess what the motives necessarily are.
I mean, profit motive, you know, the phrase follow the money is pretty good at predicting, uh, what you will see happen and for them to say, okay, uh, we could use extra virgin olive oil.
But we can get this stuff from Canada called canola oil.
That's made from rapeseed, terrible branding name, but canola comes from Canada oil and it's made from rapeseed and it's one 10th of the price.
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