Paul Cartledge
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first heard Jul 2026
last heard 16 Jul
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For you Greeks, this is not just Athenian, it's Panhellenic.
Come to Athens, bring your offerings that Leah has mentioned to our two biggest festivals, Panathinaia, Dionysia, and then you'll look up on the Acropolis and you'll see what we have done for you.
Well, yes and no, because 454, when the treasury was definitely moved, because that's when the tribute quota lists start getting written down.
Pericles was not yet much of a power.
He was a general, he was a leading politician, but it wasn't actually his proposal.
And there is a source which says one of the allies proposed the move, and that was Samos, which is one of the biggest, most sensitive, most important allies.
But that might, of course, have been the Athenians claiming, oh, no, it wasn't our idea, it was the Samians'.
Yeah, well, there are two sorts of issues here.
One is Pericles, of course, was totally dependent on the ordinary people of Athens agreeing with whatever he suggested.
Yes, I was just going to say we've been sort of avoiding the word democracy, which does apply also within the allied states.
And in terms of within Athens in the 5th century, there are at least two other major temples outside Athens' city.
and one of them, Ramnus, and one of them at Sunion.
And the Sunion one you can still go and visit.
It's utterly beautiful.
And they're about the same period, so 440 or so.
440 is as the Parthenon's going up, and it took 15 years.
These are the two temples outside Athens.
And then there's a very big one in Athens called the Hephaestion, which looks over the city centre where both commercial and political business was transacted.
So it was systematic.
It's not random.
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