Paul Clitheroe

And hopefully you can make teaching more enjoyable.

In maths, financial literacy is a no-brainer.

The ability to say to kids, mum and dad whack an extra $10 a week into their mortgage.

How much better off are they over 20 years?

Goodness, James, you've got a pure mathematical principle.

You've got compound interest.

And you've also got kids going home saying to mum and dad, hey, mum and dad, you'd be 20 grand better off if you put 20 bucks a week into your mortgage.

So there's some absolute no-brainers here, James.

We just need political and community will to make it happen without stressing school teachers further.

Look, absolutely.

Where we need to be careful and look to the Commonwealth Bank's credit, for example, and I'm not picking on the Commonwealth Bank here, I'm giving them praise.

They work very hard to put together through their foundation, the schools program.

But there's always going to be a bit of a branding problem.

So the blunt answer is, and I think now...

They put so much work into that program.

And as they withdrew from the schools because of the whole issue around communities.

And I get this.

Should the kids be learning at school from the Commonwealth Bank?

Or a natural fact, is it a branding and marketing exercise?

Yeah.