Lex Fridman Podcast
#357 β Paul Conti: Narcissism, Sociopathy, Envy, and the Nature of Good and Evil
Because you got to get at those things so that one can begin to bring
Lex Fridman Podcast
#357 β Paul Conti: Narcissism, Sociopathy, Envy, and the Nature of Good and Evil
into focus, what does the trauma mean and what does it not mean?
Lex Fridman Podcast
#357 β Paul Conti: Narcissism, Sociopathy, Envy, and the Nature of Good and Evil
I mean, a classic example is the, what would you say to someone else example?
Lex Fridman Podcast
#357 β Paul Conti: Narcissism, Sociopathy, Envy, and the Nature of Good and Evil
You know, you'll say, well, I, how many times have I, it's just, I could cry if I stop and think about it enough.
Lex Fridman Podcast
#357 β Paul Conti: Narcissism, Sociopathy, Envy, and the Nature of Good and Evil
You have to stop and talk to someone who is sexually assaulted through no fault of their own, who comes in and tells the story they've been telling themselves about how it's their fault.
Lex Fridman Podcast
#357 β Paul Conti: Narcissism, Sociopathy, Envy, and the Nature of Good and Evil
They should have walked home a different way.
Lex Fridman Podcast
#357 β Paul Conti: Narcissism, Sociopathy, Envy, and the Nature of Good and Evil
They should have dressed differently.
Lex Fridman Podcast
#357 β Paul Conti: Narcissism, Sociopathy, Envy, and the Nature of Good and Evil
They should have left earlier, right?
Lex Fridman Podcast
#357 β Paul Conti: Narcissism, Sociopathy, Envy, and the Nature of Good and Evil
I wrote about it in the book over and over and over.
Lex Fridman Podcast
#357 β Paul Conti: Narcissism, Sociopathy, Envy, and the Nature of Good and Evil
Now, you have a person who, let's say you take a person who's intelligent, engaged in the world, who's capable of understanding lots and lots and lots of things, but doesn't understand that, right?
Lex Fridman Podcast
#357 β Paul Conti: Narcissism, Sociopathy, Envy, and the Nature of Good and Evil
If it were someone else, that person would understand in a moment.
Lex Fridman Podcast
#357 β Paul Conti: Narcissism, Sociopathy, Envy, and the Nature of Good and Evil
That's not that person's fault, right?
Lex Fridman Podcast
#357 β Paul Conti: Narcissism, Sociopathy, Envy, and the Nature of Good and Evil
So what you want to do is overcome the fact that the negative emotions, the hijacked emotion systems of trauma are telling that person a lie, and they're telling them so strongly and so
Lex Fridman Podcast
#357 β Paul Conti: Narcissism, Sociopathy, Envy, and the Nature of Good and Evil
so meanly that the person just takes it inside and starts to see it as true, right?
Lex Fridman Podcast
#357 β Paul Conti: Narcissism, Sociopathy, Envy, and the Nature of Good and Evil
So you begin to hold that up to the light of day.
Lex Fridman Podcast
#357 β Paul Conti: Narcissism, Sociopathy, Envy, and the Nature of Good and Evil
And again, one example could be, okay, so someone, the person who's coming in next has actually been through something similar, right?
Lex Fridman Podcast
#357 β Paul Conti: Narcissism, Sociopathy, Envy, and the Nature of Good and Evil
And do you mind, can you stay and just tell her how it's her fault, right?
Lex Fridman Podcast
#357 β Paul Conti: Narcissism, Sociopathy, Envy, and the Nature of Good and Evil
And like, oh my God, no, because I could never, like then they see, right?
Lex Fridman Podcast
#357 β Paul Conti: Narcissism, Sociopathy, Envy, and the Nature of Good and Evil
And again, this is not always how you do it, but sometimes you can get a person to see like, well, that would be the most horrible thing
Lex Fridman Podcast
#357 β Paul Conti: Narcissism, Sociopathy, Envy, and the Nature of Good and Evil
How could you do that?