Paul Crawley

Yeah.

They did an investigation.

It wasn't until 2023 that Klein registered on BetStop.

See, I don't necessarily agree with this transparency aspect that you talk about.

And I know you say this is a public game and people in private business are allowed to have their business kept private.

But in the NRL, why should it be any different for the players as opposed to, like if players test positive to drugs within their club,

To start with, their coach doesn't even know.

Their CEO doesn't even know.

So why should a referee's business become public when, look, we've seen over time.

But we've seen over time, right, in the betting stakes that we've seen players' polls, we've heard players talk about the fact that there's just this –

outrageous amount of gambling addiction going on in the game.

Like you go back two decades, mate, they were talking 50% of the players after a poll that said their teammates had some sort of gambling problem.

But they're not gambling on rugby league.

They're gambling on other sports.

Like that's-

That's what's out in the public domain at the moment.

You're talking about, you know, Ashley Kine's debts.

We don't know.

Let's talk about other lacks of discipline over time though, okay?

So because we're talking about Ashley Cline and he's in the news at the moment, but you and I will both go back through the years when Nathan Hindmarsh released his book.