Paul Hopgood

But I think the thing where it changed a bit is that I think he realised that we had a pretty good bunch of guys and he got the most out of most of the people that he did coach.

And I think that's a sign of a good coach as well, is that they're improving or developing or better than...

what they were or when he first met them to achieve things is a positive thing.

But his other aspect, I suppose, was that he... I think he realised that...

um he was he was highly regarded and well looked up to and and i think that he's changed in regards to you know although we didn't achieve a lot to to be able to support guys and and and look out for them he'd be always flicking me a text saying have you heard from so-and-so and do we need to reach out and you know he he just had that father figure approach about him mate that evolved after his after his coaching

I just think his ability to make choices and that you own your choices and how he's ingrained that into everyone as well.

With adversity and...

and and challenges that come through that you know he still controlled his choices and he still owned his choices and and that's what he wanted to do and that was his way of dealing with everything as well and i think he's been able to get that message through through to you know the the broader community as well you know that it's just you know we all have some good and bad days that goes with it and we all have some challenges that come along the way but

You have that power of choice and I think his ability to do that and to play on.

He's a bloke who has had as much adversity as anyone even through his footy career that was cut short and coaching, not getting the ultimate success, but bringing a group together and achieving something to this horrible disease that was thrown his way.

He just...

had this amazing ability to play on take it on hit it head on and do it with a sense of humour like he's a funny man and he traded off that as well and I said to Jan the other day I actually I miss his cackle that cackle laugh Tim that he's had that he'd laugh at his own jokes and that I just would love to hear that one more time but yeah

Yeah, I just think to take on these challenges and hit them head on and face adversity, be selfless in his approach to it all and give a lot of people a lot of life lessons will be the things that I remember the most.

Yeah, and make sure you two guys look after yourselves as well.

Yeah, it's been a pretty challenging time.

So thanks for that.