Paul Kusserow

They want to be able to have those caregivers outside of an institutional setting.

So I think that's going to drive it.

Yes, the guns and butter is taken from a speech of Lyndon Johnson, who was basically saying that you can have it all, we can have it all as a country, guns and butter.

This was during the Vietnam War.

And basically, I translate that as you can have your cake and eat it too.

I think we can.

I think, again, we have such...

Strong healthcare within the institutions, but I think we need to shrink those institutions.

We have such good technology, we can now migrate it out.

So I think what we're going to show up with is what I think a lot of the rest of the world's going to be, but I do think we're going to leapfrog it.

So I'm very optimistic about it.

I think a lot of the companies that we profile, they're all going to have the same types of characteristics.

They're going to do value-based care.

So they're going to take responsibility for the care they deliver and for the outcomes that are out there.

They're going to be community-based.

They're going to be holistic.

They're going to be individualized and customized.

I think they're going to be democratized.

So I think there will be much better access.

As you saw in the book,