Paul Ollinger

That's 100% right. And I think it made me a very earnest person. It made me very hungry for attention. But to be my own person and have something to say and distinguish myself from my older brother and my family in general, you know, when I was a freshman, my brother Cole was a junior in high school.

That's 100% right. And I think it made me a very earnest person. It made me very hungry for attention. But to be my own person and have something to say and distinguish myself from my older brother and my family in general, you know, when I was a freshman, my brother Cole was a junior in high school.

And for the first year of my high school experience, I just, all I had to do, I just heard the girls, the beautiful girls at my freshman homeroom table talk about what a great looking guy my older brother was. And I was like, that's the last thing I want to hear. Right. So, you know, and I shared a room with him until I was a sophomore in high school and he was a senior.

And for the first year of my high school experience, I just, all I had to do, I just heard the girls, the beautiful girls at my freshman homeroom table talk about what a great looking guy my older brother was. And I was like, that's the last thing I want to hear. Right. So, you know, and I shared a room with him until I was a sophomore in high school and he was a senior.

And for the first year of my high school experience, I just, all I had to do, I just heard the girls, the beautiful girls at my freshman homeroom table talk about what a great looking guy my older brother was. And I was like, that's the last thing I want to hear. Right. So, you know, and I shared a room with him until I was a sophomore in high school and he was a senior.

So, um, a lot of, a lot of closeness, a lot of competition that eventually, you know, not now my, my brothers and sisters are very, very good friends. And, um,

So, um, a lot of, a lot of closeness, a lot of competition that eventually, you know, not now my, my brothers and sisters are very, very good friends. And, um,

So, um, a lot of, a lot of closeness, a lot of competition that eventually, you know, not now my, my brothers and sisters are very, very good friends. And, um,

That's right. That's right. Well, I really was available to them, you know, but when I got my braces off, maybe, you know, things things start to improve a little bit. So my son's about to get his braces off. So I'm sort of like, oh, man, I wonder what's going to happen to him when, you know, in the next few months, he's he's right at that point where he's about to break out, you know?

That's right. That's right. Well, I really was available to them, you know, but when I got my braces off, maybe, you know, things things start to improve a little bit. So my son's about to get his braces off. So I'm sort of like, oh, man, I wonder what's going to happen to him when, you know, in the next few months, he's he's right at that point where he's about to break out, you know?

That's right. That's right. Well, I really was available to them, you know, but when I got my braces off, maybe, you know, things things start to improve a little bit. So my son's about to get his braces off. So I'm sort of like, oh, man, I wonder what's going to happen to him when, you know, in the next few months, he's he's right at that point where he's about to break out, you know?

So expensive.

So expensive.

So expensive.

Well, my, my brother was a very, uh, my old, my immediately older brother, you know, we had the benefit. He was fourth. I was fifth. We were only 18 months, all the youngest, the youngest four of us were all 18 months apart. So we were very, you know, close in proximity and in age. Um, he was a very good student. Um, he was a very good basketball player.

Well, my, my brother was a very, uh, my old, my immediately older brother, you know, we had the benefit. He was fourth. I was fifth. We were only 18 months, all the youngest, the youngest four of us were all 18 months apart. So we were very, you know, close in proximity and in age. Um, he was a very good student. Um, he was a very good basketball player.

Well, my, my brother was a very, uh, my old, my immediately older brother, you know, we had the benefit. He was fourth. I was fifth. We were only 18 months, all the youngest, the youngest four of us were all 18 months apart. So we were very, you know, close in proximity and in age. Um, he was a very good student. Um, he was a very good basketball player.

Um, and so that was the immediate, you know, person I wanted to outshine. So I wanted to do better than him. So he was a captain of the basketball team. I wanted to be the captain of the football team, lead role in the play, head of the student government, all that kind of stuff. And I ended up doing all that. And I was motivated.

Um, and so that was the immediate, you know, person I wanted to outshine. So I wanted to do better than him. So he was a captain of the basketball team. I wanted to be the captain of the football team, lead role in the play, head of the student government, all that kind of stuff. And I ended up doing all that. And I was motivated.

Um, and so that was the immediate, you know, person I wanted to outshine. So I wanted to do better than him. So he was a captain of the basketball team. I wanted to be the captain of the football team, lead role in the play, head of the student government, all that kind of stuff. And I ended up doing all that. And I was motivated.