Paul Peterson

So the long time cost of ownership with Goldmine is very, very strong in our favor.

It's about 140 to 150 a user per year.

So times that by five, 750.

750 a year.

Whereas if you go with a subscription service and you paid $80 a month or whatever, you're paying...

80 plus a month every year thereafter.

Okay.

And that's a combination of the one time plus the service fee.

That was no maintenance and it was all shrink wrap and it was retail.

CDWs and comp USAs.

I mean, uh, you know, people that are, you know, disappeared from the same office depots, uh, max, it was all, it was all retail.

And then, and then the retail price was probably about 300 bucks.

So it was the heyday, uh, people in 2000.

were replacing everything because of, they thought planes and their businesses were going to fall out of the sky because of Y2K.

So we had a huge year, things sort of tailed off after that.

And we shifted, uh, Goldmine shifted from where we were using Borland database engine.

So this is technology that goes way back, but it was the first database that people touched on at the time.

And so we shifted to SQL when it was coming out, SQL seven, uh, it was a affordable database.

We were an OEM.

We were a large, uh,