Paul Peterson

OEM product for that.

And that became one of the first database and shared applications that many, many businesses used.

And in fact, we were often a network tester.

Goldmine, because it was sending data over the network, would find kinks in your network that didn't exist, that you didn't know exist.

But over time, accounting applications and other things got up on the network.

But

It's about 5,000.

And we estimate we probably have one or two who don't, or 2,000 who don't pay the fee.

So you do have that option.

So then with regards to pricing, we've got to have a good current upgrade.

So it's definitely an older model, but you own the software.

It's a perpetual license.

One of the other elements is we're concurrent.

And this is actually an important- Well, Paul, hold on, hold on.

So we, we used and our motto is concurrent, which means shared licenses.

Uh, you, if you subscribe, you're paying per login per named user.

Well, within gold mine, uh, the idea is to create an ID for everybody in your company.

And we, we deal mostly with small businesses, SMBs.

Uh, but let's say I can put in 20 names so that the people from accounting or, uh,

sales administration can log in and use it occasionally, but they don't have to pay for a license.