Paul Saladino

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And so I think it's important, and humans do much better when they have organs, even a little bit of organs every day, in connection with their muscle meat. And most people won't eat organs fresh or cooked. So one of the companies I built was Heart and Soil, which just makes the organ capsules. But fresh organs are better if you want to try it. Have you ever eaten a testicle?
Yeah.
Yeah, you know it.
Yeah. Why waste the organs? It's unique nutrition. And what's interesting about organs specifically, I'll just say this, is that When you eat an organ raw or freeze-dried, there seem to be unique nutritional benefits for humans, probably beyond the vitamins and minerals.
And this is really cool because you can eat a liver and I can say, or you can eat some liver, whether it's cooked on a grill or a piece of raw liver or something. And I say, yeah, Sean, that's good for you because it has vitamin A, which is bioavailable. It has choline, it has biotin, it has folate, it has zinc, it has copper, it has selenium, it has manganese.
And then it has peptides, which are these short protein fragments that probably pass through the human gut. The very small ones appear to pass through the human gut and can have roles in the human body, even across species. But there's also something in organs called microRNA.
And so there's an interesting field of research now about how do these microRNAs, which is different than messenger RNA, these microRNAs probably provide a blueprint for our cells and especially the cells of the corresponding organ that might help
repair when our organs are damaged so this is the really fascinating premise around eating organs and there's a lot of research about this from germany from the 1950s and 60s that my team found but there is evidence in animal models that when you provide either an intravenous injection of an organ or you provide like you put a little piece of liver on an embryo that's developing
the corresponding organ gets bigger. And you can give an injection of radiolabeled liver to an animal, and you see the radioactivity accumulate in this corresponding organ. So there's something going on here. The idea that organs could support the corresponding organ is really exciting, because you think about people who have...
you know, low testosterone or erectile dysfunction or women that have PCOS, which is a hormonal issue for women, or dementia. And organ therapy, I think, is something that I really hope that we can do more research on this and really show the potential of benefit to people that we've never thought about in Western medicine. It's something that happens in these indigenous tribes.
People often eat the corresponding organ, but we've lost this knowledge historically as humans.
I think that most research today is funded by pharma. And we can talk about the NIH and how many researchers at the National Institutes of Health have ties to pharma. I believe it's over 8,000. And the majority of research that's taught in medical school, the majority of research that comes out of the NIH is funded by pharma.
This gets back to the FDA, the Food and Drug Administration, and the USDA. And so who benefits, right? There's no liver lobby to talk to Congress, and there's no one to fund these studies.
This company, Heart and Soil, and the nonprofit that I built will hopefully be funding some studies to try and ask these questions and get some more interesting answers in 2024 relative to the 1950 and 1960 studies. These are not the studies that have been done. There hasn't been a lot of good nutritional research done in the last 100 years.
There's a little bit, but most of it is really tricky to do.
Very potentially with the Flexner report. It's possible, yeah, that allopathic medicine, I mean, that's a hypothesis that... potentially the Rockefellers were interested in the petroleum-derived pharmaceuticals, and so they wanted to support the pharmaceutical industry.
I'm not sure how much historical corroboration there is for that, but there certainly was a document published called the Flexner Report, I believe in the early 1900s, that that denigrated alternative medicine, anything that wasn't allopathic.
That's the traditional medicine. So I'm an MD, I went to an allopathic medical school, the University of Arizona, did my residency at the University of Washington. Allopathic medicine is what you think of when you think of a doctor who you go to an office and you see them in the office. That's an MD, that's allopathic medicine. Okay. DOs also practice allopathic medicine.
And everything else since the Flexinger report has been termed alternative medicine. And yes, there are good doctors in allopathic medicine, and there are doctors that don't really do such a great job in allopathic medicine, just like there are good and bad doctors in the alternative world.
But to suggest that there are no valuable ideas or interventions outside of what allopathic medicine offers us as humans is pretty ridiculous. But that's really been... the position of the mainstream is to just push all the alternative ideas. Even calling them alternative ideas is pejorative.
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