Paul W. Downs

That's Wired.

That's Wired.

That's you guys, right?

I mean, I do.

Well, it's funny because we are, no, Fashion First is not my motto or Wired's, but we do work at Condé Nast.

And I, you know, my boss is Anna Wintour.

So Fashion First is...

has become maybe more of a priority for me than it used to be.

It's like fashion third, you know?

And that's 25th, fashion third.

But I will say, my husband and I blew through a bunch of season five this weekend.

I'm excited to talk to you guys a little bit about that, about the show.

And I want to actually start by talking about women, a subject close to my heart as I am one.

But I also run a magazine that historically, you know, was run by men for years.

I'm surrounded by men.

They're everywhere in my life.

They're everywhere in our coverage.

And this show I love in particular because it centers around this relationship between these two women.

I think two women who are very powerful in different ways in their own right.

And they have this very complicated relationship and this big generational gap.