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Pavel Durov

๐Ÿ‘ค Speaker
1770 total appearances

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Lex Fridman Podcast
#482 โ€“ Pavel Durov: Telegram, Freedom, Censorship, Money, Power & Human Nature

is something that we had to deal with for some time because it's a very easy way to attack you.

Lex Fridman Podcast
#482 โ€“ Pavel Durov: Telegram, Freedom, Censorship, Money, Power & Human Nature

At some point you don't understand where it is coming from.

Lex Fridman Podcast
#482 โ€“ Pavel Durov: Telegram, Freedom, Censorship, Money, Power & Human Nature

Is it our competitors?

Lex Fridman Podcast
#482 โ€“ Pavel Durov: Telegram, Freedom, Censorship, Money, Power & Human Nature

We must give credit to our competitors if it's their invention to launch these kind of rumors because at a certain point they must have realized they can't compete

Lex Fridman Podcast
#482 โ€“ Pavel Durov: Telegram, Freedom, Censorship, Money, Power & Human Nature

technologically, on the product side, so they must do something like this.

Lex Fridman Podcast
#482 โ€“ Pavel Durov: Telegram, Freedom, Censorship, Money, Power & Human Nature

Or it's just governments launching these rumors, trying to discredit the platform, trying to scare their citizens away from it, because they understand that their power and grip of their own country is in danger, as long as they allow a pro-freedom platform to operate.

Lex Fridman Podcast
#482 โ€“ Pavel Durov: Telegram, Freedom, Censorship, Money, Power & Human Nature

I think people are smart.

Lex Fridman Podcast
#482 โ€“ Pavel Durov: Telegram, Freedom, Censorship, Money, Power & Human Nature

Every time I meet somebody from one of these countries you mentioned, in real life, people recognize me in the street.

Lex Fridman Podcast
#482 โ€“ Pavel Durov: Telegram, Freedom, Censorship, Money, Power & Human Nature

Say here in Dubai, they come over, they seem incredibly grateful and understanding.

Lex Fridman Podcast
#482 โ€“ Pavel Durov: Telegram, Freedom, Censorship, Money, Power & Human Nature

the propaganda in each of these countries would tell them a number of things but they learned to discount it that's why they're so happy that telegram exists is because the way they can

Lex Fridman Podcast
#482 โ€“ Pavel Durov: Telegram, Freedom, Censorship, Money, Power & Human Nature

understand the world around them is to receive conflicting mutually exclusive viewpoints from sources that hate each other and try to understand what really is true.

Lex Fridman Podcast
#482 โ€“ Pavel Durov: Telegram, Freedom, Censorship, Money, Power & Human Nature

Because there is no such thing as an unbiased source of information.

Lex Fridman Podcast
#482 โ€“ Pavel Durov: Telegram, Freedom, Censorship, Money, Power & Human Nature

When the war in Ukraine started in 2022,

Lex Fridman Podcast
#482 โ€“ Pavel Durov: Telegram, Freedom, Censorship, Money, Power & Human Nature

And I didn't want Telegram to be used as a tool for war.

Lex Fridman Podcast
#482 โ€“ Pavel Durov: Telegram, Freedom, Censorship, Money, Power & Human Nature

And I said, and I posted it publicly, I suggested maybe we should just suspend the activity of all politics-related channels in both countries for the time of the war.

Lex Fridman Podcast
#482 โ€“ Pavel Durov: Telegram, Freedom, Censorship, Money, Power & Human Nature

Maybe we shouldn't have channels in these two countries.

Lex Fridman Podcast
#482 โ€“ Pavel Durov: Telegram, Freedom, Censorship, Money, Power & Human Nature

They told me, both people in Ukraine and in Russia, that I don't get to babysit them and decide for them

Lex Fridman Podcast
#482 โ€“ Pavel Durov: Telegram, Freedom, Censorship, Money, Power & Human Nature

what sources of information that they have to be granted access to.

Lex Fridman Podcast
#482 โ€“ Pavel Durov: Telegram, Freedom, Censorship, Money, Power & Human Nature

They are grown-ups that can make these decisions for themselves.

Lex Fridman Podcast
#482 โ€“ Pavel Durov: Telegram, Freedom, Censorship, Money, Power & Human Nature

They understand that there is a lot of propaganda.